Comments on: Quick web-dev environment found.

By: Marc

Marc — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:51:47 +0000

Yeah, now thinking about it, I was a bit confusing.

Here’s a way of saying it:

I have a lot of experience with Java dev environments and had one all set up to go. I bet, in about 8 hours, I could have made the described system.

I don’t have any RoR experience. But in 8 hours I was still able to make the described system.

Next time, with my new RoR experience, I bet I could make it in just an hour or two.

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But all that being said. Now that it’s a couple days later, and I think more about it. I’m no longer convinced I could have created the same thing in a day in Java, even with my level of experience. So maybe that first statement should have been

I have a lot of experience with Java dev environments and had one all set up to go. I bet, in about *16* hours, I could have made the described system.

It might be that for me, on simple projects RoR is 5-10x faster in terms of development time than Java.

By: Marwan Narian

Marwan Narian — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:19:58 +0000

Maybe I misunderstood your comment “Now, if I had been working in my J2ee environment, I bet I could have written it in about the same amount of time.” Sorry about that. Thanks.

By: Marc

Marc — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:03:25 +0000

The time it takes to do an installation of a dev environment or the runtime performance of that environment wasn’t what I was talking about. For things like this, I care much more about how long it takes to develop useful things within the environment.

By: Marwan Narian

Marwan Narian — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:49:28 +0000

Not sure what exactly you are after but it takes 10 minutes to install XAMPP which will give you Apache, MySql and throws in PHP, FTP, Email server, PHPMyAdmin and some other stuff. Another 10 to 15 minutes to install CF and you have a web dev environment. Just how much faster does it need to be? Regards.

By: Craig Kaminsky

Craig Kaminsky — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:49:13 +0000

I’ve been diggin getting to know RoR as well but am a long-time CFML developer. I would like to suggest trying Railo (an open-source CFML engine that runs on any J2EE container — Tomcat, JBoss, etc.). It’s significantly faster than Adobe’s CF server, has a much (MUCH) smaller footpring than the Adobe CF server. It can be a little tricky to get setup and configured in Apache but I could provide you some links to excellent tutorials on doing just that.

None of this is to suggest you should leave or bag RoR. I enjoy it a lot but just wanted to offer this suggestion (combine Railo with the ColdBox framework and you have a very nice, rapid application development environment).