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	<title>Comments on: Gonna try out this CFML stuff, where to start?</title>
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	<description>Comments and thoughts on technology from Marc Hughes</description>
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		<title>By: Quick web-dev environment found. at Marc&#8217;s Musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick web-dev environment found. at Marc&#8217;s Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A while back, I was trying out cold fusion to see if it could become my new &#8220;quickly get a website up and running&#8221; environment.  I was pretty dissapointed with it.  The speed / power / ease tradeoffs just didn&#8217;t feel like they were in the right place.  Ever since then I&#8217;ve been using a pretty standard J2EE solution.  While I&#8217;m quite happy with how that works out, I really wish I had something faster to develop quick ideas with. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A while back, I was trying out cold fusion to see if it could become my new &#8220;quickly get a website up and running&#8221; environment.  I was pretty dissapointed with it.  The speed / power / ease tradeoffs just didn&#8217;t feel like they were in the right place.  Ever since then I&#8217;ve been using a pretty standard J2EE solution.  While I&#8217;m quite happy with how that works out, I really wish I had something faster to develop quick ideas with. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely cfEclipse (but get a second IDE too, Eclipse does not play well with websamba)

Definitely www.riaForge.com and www.coldfusionjedi.com and the MXNA blog aggregator.

If you see cfset whatever = #somethingInHashes# or evaluate() ignore that site.

Steer clear of any &#039;framework&#039; discussions until your cfBullshitDetector is finely tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely cfEclipse (but get a second IDE too, Eclipse does not play well with websamba)</p>
<p>Definitely <a href="http://www.riaForge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.riaForge.com</a> and <a href="http://www.coldfusionjedi.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coldfusionjedi.com</a> and the MXNA blog aggregator.</p>
<p>If you see cfset whatever = #somethingInHashes# or evaluate() ignore that site.</p>
<p>Steer clear of any &#8216;framework&#8217; discussions until your cfBullshitDetector is finely tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the community.  I would recommend seeking out a local CF users group if one is in your area.  You will find people that will be glad to answer your questions.

As to editors starting out I would use TextMate but be sure to get the CFML language add-on cftextmate at cftextmate.com.  I personally prefer CFEclipse but that could come later as there is a bit of a learning curve.

Two sites that might help you with examples are easycfm.com and coldfusioncookbook.com.  

Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the community.  I would recommend seeking out a local CF users group if one is in your area.  You will find people that will be glad to answer your questions.</p>
<p>As to editors starting out I would use TextMate but be sure to get the CFML language add-on cftextmate at cftextmate.com.  I personally prefer CFEclipse but that could come later as there is a bit of a learning curve.</p>
<p>Two sites that might help you with examples are easycfm.com and coldfusioncookbook.com.  </p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Sidious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Sidious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EasyCFM is one - http://www.easycfm.com/

But to tell you the truth, the CF Docs have been evolving for a looooooooooooooong time, and it&#039;s very good. Check it out at http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/Part_4_CF_DevGuide_1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EasyCFM is one &#8211; <a href="http://www.easycfm.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.easycfm.com/</a></p>
<p>But to tell you the truth, the CF Docs have been evolving for a looooooooooooooong time, and it&#8217;s very good. Check it out at <a href="http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/Part_4_CF_DevGuide_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/Part_4_CF_DevGuide_1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: marc esher</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc esher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, Welcome!

Starting with the WACK books is a great place to begin. I liked them because they were very well organized, methodical, and got me running quickly.

As for IDE, I love cfeclipse. And your point is a good one: when you&#039;re working with both flex and CF, it&#039;s nice to be able to do it all in one workspace.

For bloggers, I use http://coldfusionbloggers.org/. It&#039;s easier for me to keep up with all the great stuff people in the community write by using that aggregator. fullasagoog.com is another good one. 

Good luck, and welcome to the community!

best,

marc esher
mxunit.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, Welcome!</p>
<p>Starting with the WACK books is a great place to begin. I liked them because they were very well organized, methodical, and got me running quickly.</p>
<p>As for IDE, I love cfeclipse. And your point is a good one: when you&#8217;re working with both flex and CF, it&#8217;s nice to be able to do it all in one workspace.</p>
<p>For bloggers, I use <a href="http://coldfusionbloggers.org/" rel="nofollow">http://coldfusionbloggers.org/</a>. It&#8217;s easier for me to keep up with all the great stuff people in the community write by using that aggregator. fullasagoog.com is another good one. </p>
<p>Good luck, and welcome to the community!</p>
<p>best,</p>
<p>marc esher<br />
mxunit.org</p>
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