Comments on: Case Study: Three large Flex/AIR applications http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/ Comments and thoughts on technology from Marc Hughes Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:23:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Marc http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-370 Marc Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:52:41 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-370 Hi Aaron, I'm in central Massachusetts and currently work near Boston, I've done onsite and remote work. But, I'm very happily employed and currently have more work than I can handle. Hi Aaron,

I’m in central Massachusetts and currently work near Boston, I’ve done onsite and remote work. But, I’m very happily employed and currently have more work than I can handle.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-368 Aaron Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:42:26 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-368 Marc, Where are you located? i.e. What part of the country? Are you willing to work remotely with anyone?? Aaron Marc,

Where are you located? i.e. What part of the country? Are you willing to work remotely with anyone??

Aaron

]]> By: SmartLogic Solutions Blog » Blog Archive » Automating Flex Compilation Using ANT http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-339 SmartLogic Solutions Blog » Blog Archive » Automating Flex Compilation Using ANT Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:05:06 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-339 [...] reading a blog post by Marc Hughes I realized it was time we put in place a more versatile environment for building Flex applications. [...] [...] reading a blog post by Marc Hughes I realized it was time we put in place a more versatile environment for building Flex applications. [...]

]]> By: Garth Somerville http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-285 Garth Somerville Thu, 22 May 2008 16:58:43 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-285 Hi Marc, This is great information and some really impressive projects. I'm also looking forward to hearing more about your approach to model adapters as I have run into the same problem it sounds like you have solved. I noted with interest your comment about finding Flex developers, as right now I see little or no demand for Flex software developers. The few jobs that mention Flex seem to be geared toward a Flash developer with some Flex exposure as opposed to a career C/C++/Java engineer with Flex experience. Hi Marc,

This is great information and some really impressive projects. I’m also looking forward to hearing more about your approach to model adapters as I have run into the same problem it sounds like you have solved.

I noted with interest your comment about finding Flex developers, as right now I see little or no demand for Flex software developers. The few jobs that mention Flex seem to be geared toward a Flash developer with some Flex exposure as opposed to a career C/C++/Java engineer with Flex experience.

]]> By: Jens Halm http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-272 Jens Halm Wed, 14 May 2008 19:28:51 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-272 Ah, ok, when the error occurs right when initializing the container, the parsing/processing will be executed in a callback and then be spit out with an error event. So I'm not sure if I could do anything about it. When an error occurs while you fetch an object from the context with getObject you should enjoy the luxury of a regular error and stacktrace in the debugger. ;) Circular references are already scheduled for version 1.0.2. In fact, that is Parsley Jira ticket No. 1 I created when I ran out of time for the initial release. ;) Do you have examples for bad/unhelpful error messages? Just as a hint where I could start improving. Btw. the blog software is a bit strange. When you come back after you have already posted a comment you will be greeted with your name and the fields for Name and Mail are gone. But when you submit it nevertheless complains about missing Name and Mail entries... Strange. Ah, ok, when the error occurs right when initializing the container, the parsing/processing will be executed in a callback and then be spit out with an error event. So I’m not sure if I could do anything about it. When an error occurs while you fetch an object from the context with getObject you should enjoy the luxury of a regular error and stacktrace in the debugger. ;)
Circular references are already scheduled for version 1.0.2. In fact, that is Parsley Jira ticket No. 1 I created when I ran out of time for the initial release. ;)
Do you have examples for bad/unhelpful error messages? Just as a hint where I could start improving.

Btw. the blog software is a bit strange. When you come back after you have already posted a comment you will be greeted with your name and the fields for Name and Mail are gone. But when you submit it nevertheless complains about missing Name and Mail entries… Strange.

]]> By: Marc http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-271 Marc Wed, 14 May 2008 19:05:57 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-271 The main problems with debugging parsley have to do with how the call stack ends up when problems occur. I often find myself reading through a long stack in the output console, and not being able to simply click on the stack on the debug window of Flex Builder. I think it's mainly a problem when errors occur during initialization of objects. It's more a problem that I've encountered while introducing Parsley to our team here at TSP. Engineers who are new to IoC often times have a real hard time grasping exactly why things go wrong when they do. Better error messages might help. Somehow allowing circular references would be nice :) The main problems with debugging parsley have to do with how the call stack ends up when problems occur. I often find myself reading through a long stack in the output console, and not being able to simply click on the stack on the debug window of Flex Builder. I think it’s mainly a problem when errors occur during initialization of objects.

It’s more a problem that I’ve encountered while introducing Parsley to our team here at TSP. Engineers who are new to IoC often times have a real hard time grasping exactly why things go wrong when they do. Better error messages might help.

Somehow allowing circular references would be nice :)

]]> By: Jens Halm http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-270 Jens Halm Wed, 14 May 2008 18:56:25 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-270 Marc, I have a question about your comment that it’s harder to debug a Parsley based application when problems occur. Is that due to the general structure of this kind of MVC applications (and thus unavoidable) or do think that there are things we could improve in Parsley to make debugging easier? E.g. better error messages/logging etc. Any suggestions are welcome. Jens Marc,

I have a question about your comment that it’s harder to debug a Parsley based application when problems occur. Is that due to the general structure of this kind of MVC applications (and thus unavoidable) or do think that there are things we could improve in Parsley to make debugging easier? E.g. better error messages/logging etc. Any suggestions are welcome.

Jens

]]> By: Erin http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-265 Erin Tue, 13 May 2008 23:54:16 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-265 HI Marc! My name is Erin Fife and I am a recruiter at Adobe (I know...the dreaded recruiter comment....). One of my senior engineers came across your blog, was very impressed with your background and wanted me to reach out and introduce Adobe and a couple of opportunities we have. The hiring manager(s) are looking for someone w/ experience in Flex development with a strong UI sensibility. These are v1.0 products from Adobe with a strong offering into the SaaS space. Some really creative and interesting products are being developed from Adobe for the rich internet application space, especially in the area of collaboration. All just a too typical Valley way of saying, Adobe is doing some really cool stuff and I love telling engineers about them. http://labs.adobe.com/ (Brio & Share) I'd love the opportunity to chat if you're potentially interested in Adobe! In the meantime, I hope you're enjoying spring! Erin Fife Recruiter, Adobe efife@adobe.com / 408.536.5382 www.adobe.com HI Marc!
My name is Erin Fife and I am a recruiter at Adobe (I know…the dreaded recruiter comment….). One of my senior engineers came across your blog, was very impressed with your background and wanted me to reach out and introduce Adobe and a couple of opportunities we have.

The hiring manager(s) are looking for someone w/ experience in Flex development with a strong UI sensibility. These are v1.0 products from Adobe with a strong offering into the SaaS space. Some really creative and interesting products are being developed from Adobe for the rich internet application space, especially in the area of collaboration. All just a too typical Valley way of saying, Adobe is doing some really cool stuff and I love telling engineers about them.
http://labs.adobe.com/
(Brio & Share)

I’d love the opportunity to chat if you’re potentially interested in Adobe! In the meantime, I hope you’re enjoying spring!
Erin Fife
Recruiter, Adobe
efife@adobe.com / 408.536.5382
http://www.adobe.com

]]> By: Marc http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-263 Marc Tue, 13 May 2008 02:42:30 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-263 I originally found Parsley through some person's blog, forget which. Decided to use it after reading the API and then playing with a toy app or two. I hear Prana is similar and good as well. I promise to talk about model adapters in depth in a future post. I originally found Parsley through some person’s blog, forget which. Decided to use it after reading the API and then playing with a toy app or two. I hear Prana is similar and good as well.

I promise to talk about model adapters in depth in a future post.

]]> By: Dan Nelson http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-262 Dan Nelson Tue, 13 May 2008 02:39:16 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-262 Marc, Under your "Data Binding directly to the model" section you talk about Model adapters. Could you maybe blog about this idea or show an example of these model adapters in action? Thanks for having such a great blog! Marc,

Under your “Data Binding directly to the model” section you talk about Model adapters. Could you maybe blog about this idea or show an example of these model adapters in action?

Thanks for having such a great blog!

]]> By: Brent Bonet http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-261 Brent Bonet Tue, 13 May 2008 01:38:19 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-261 Hi Marc, How did you find, and then decide to use Parsley? Best, Brent Hi Marc,

How did you find, and then decide to use Parsley?

Best,
Brent

]]> By: Marc http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-260 Marc Mon, 12 May 2008 20:22:47 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-260 Klok is similar, but they are two completely different projects by different people. Klok is similar, but they are two completely different projects by different people.

]]> By: tabitha http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/05/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-259 tabitha Mon, 12 May 2008 20:12:51 +0000 http://www.rogue-development.com/blog2/2008/09/06/case-study-three-flex-applications/#comment-259 Agile Tracker looks a lot like Klok (http://klok.mcgraphix.com). Are the two projects in any way connected? Agile Tracker looks a lot like Klok (http://klok.mcgraphix.com). Are the two projects in any way connected?

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